I am sitting here, reading with great interest the comments and asking myself the whole time, why and over what are we all getting so worked up about? Then I scroll the 200 metres to the top of this Blog and see my mate, an innocent little creature that did me the favour of posing for me in my lunch hour. If he knew what was to happen here with you guys he would probably have said "kiss my ass" and ran off quick up the next tree ;-))
The point is, whether this shot is worthy of the Gallery or not has been voted by the majority of voters, I'm happy with the result, but what I find as not being the "feiner englischer art" is the way some people slag the photographer off. Must I apologise for taking this picture? Should I be sorry for posting it to this Forum? Should I be ashamed of getting with help of this Squirrel into the promised land? I must admit, being chosen for a Gallery here is a nice little ego boost to acknowledge that the time and expense this hobby inccurs was well spent. On the other hand, I don't earn a penny for sending my photos to the FC, on the contrary, I have to pay the FC for the honour to post here. I have up to now around 5 or 6 shots in the Galleries, it's no big deal any more, then why do I still bother you may ask? Quite simply because I want to share a couple of moments from my time with you all that I find worth sharing. If this is a problem for anybody then they can pass and look at something else.
But as they say, "He who laughs last, laughs the longest" and that's why after finishing this sentence I will again scroll to the top here and admire Cyril sitting on his fence, in all his glory.
Have a nice weekend and get out there and take some shots instead of sitting here.
@Neil:
No, times are not changing, they have never differed from the actual situation. Take a short look at the gallery, the latest fifty pics. You will find 16 animals there, roughly one third of the total "population", one Akt an one photo from the Street section (though in my opinion it's not even a real Street).
The idea of unfairly treated nature and animal pics is nothing but a popular misconception. In fact the massive over-representation of this genre in the gallery explanis, to some extent, the aversion, several people hold to it.
@Peter; Perhaps time are changing on the FC then? I doubt it, purely a seasonal bout of people sitting at home looking through their old archives because they cannot get out. Time will tell, but for now, this place sucks.
@Neil: Pure nonsense. Apparently you've never looked into the gallery. The majority of the recent pictures comes from the nature channel. There is no "Akt" and nearly no street photography. I don't know what you are talking about.
@Mario Vogt : It would seem to me that one needs a certain sense of humour when joining the FC. Having only just re-joined, I waited a few months because this place stinks of jealousy and cliques, I wish I had saved the 48€ and bought myself a cheap compact camera to take blurred, unfocussed 'Street photography' shots.
It would seem that if you do not take pictures with a small camera, spontaniously, aimlessly, pointlessly and badly...then you cannot call it a photo, or art...
Apparently sitting patiently for a single animal or bird to come your way has no place in the FC, perhaps there is no skill, no challenge, no point?
And what of the Akt clique? Some take wonderful pictures, good lighting, good ideas, well chosen models. Those guys I salute!
On the whole though it is just pictures of saggy wives in badly chosen fishnets taken with a flash, really challenging. But lets give it a star anyway, cos there is a naked chick!
Forgive me but the FC is over run with people who vote not for the photo, but for the fact they don't like the subject...perhaps it is time to split the voting process up, Natur togs vote in the Natur section....Akt togs vote in the saggy womens section. ;)
Is it possible to cancel a subscription? I feel cheated out of 48€, this is not a Foto community, it is a Foto Clique.
habe mich weiter oben schon mal getraut, das Bild zu loben. Aber es ist in dieser unsäglichen Diskussion viel, vermutlich zu viel gesagt worden. Ich will noch einen Aspekt anfügen: Was macht denn ein solches Tierfoto gut oder galeriefähig? Soll natürlich gut getroffen sein, scharf ohnehin und, und ,und... Aber für mich ist vielleicht gerade das Eichhörnchen ein zwiespältiges Objekt, denn bei uns in der Gegend sind die äußerst rar und dazu noch immens scheu - anderen Ortes gehn die durchs offene Fenster an die Kochtöpfe!!! Klar, dass bei solch zahmen Tieren der "Seltenheitswert" sinkt - für mich waren die Fotos, die ich oben veröffentlicht habe, absolute Glückstreffer, weil eben eine Katze ein Eichhörnchen auf einen Baum flüchten ließ und dieser Baum gerade zufällig neben unserem Balkon in noch gerade erreichbarer Entfernung war zum fotografieren. So ist auch dies wie vieles im Leben RELATIV!!!
"ein fake, gestern um 21:35 Uhr
wie schön, sabine war schon in:
> Alte Pinakothek München, National Gallery London,
> National Portrait Gallery London, Österreichische
> Galerie Wien, Deutsches Museum München,
> Gemäldegalerie Berlin, Kulturmodell Passau, usw.usw.
und jetzt? möchtest du gelobt werden? bewundert?
du hast in der lustigen aufzählung jetzt nur die fc-gallery vergessen ..."
Junge Du hast ein Rad ab!
Erst wird folgendes gepostet:
"superkreativerprofifotodesignkünstler, gestern um 10:48 Uhr
"....zu lesen, wie oft in den Kommentaren unterm Bild das Wort "verdient" auftaucht, wenn es um die Galerie geht.
vor allem schreiben das immer diejenigen, die in ihrem ganzen leben noch nie eine reale galerie in der realen welt, von innen gesehen haben."
und wenn man dem etwas dagegen zu setzen hat kommt ein faky und schwafelt dummlall.
Hey und jetzt? möchtest du gelobt werden? bewundert?
Douglas Stevens 30/01/2009 22:11
I am sitting here, reading with great interest the comments and asking myself the whole time, why and over what are we all getting so worked up about? Then I scroll the 200 metres to the top of this Blog and see my mate, an innocent little creature that did me the favour of posing for me in my lunch hour. If he knew what was to happen here with you guys he would probably have said "kiss my ass" and ran off quick up the next tree ;-))The point is, whether this shot is worthy of the Gallery or not has been voted by the majority of voters, I'm happy with the result, but what I find as not being the "feiner englischer art" is the way some people slag the photographer off. Must I apologise for taking this picture? Should I be sorry for posting it to this Forum? Should I be ashamed of getting with help of this Squirrel into the promised land? I must admit, being chosen for a Gallery here is a nice little ego boost to acknowledge that the time and expense this hobby inccurs was well spent. On the other hand, I don't earn a penny for sending my photos to the FC, on the contrary, I have to pay the FC for the honour to post here. I have up to now around 5 or 6 shots in the Galleries, it's no big deal any more, then why do I still bother you may ask? Quite simply because I want to share a couple of moments from my time with you all that I find worth sharing. If this is a problem for anybody then they can pass and look at something else.
But as they say, "He who laughs last, laughs the longest" and that's why after finishing this sentence I will again scroll to the top here and admire Cyril sitting on his fence, in all his glory.
Have a nice weekend and get out there and take some shots instead of sitting here.
Best regards Doug
0x FF 30/01/2009 17:17
@Neil:No, times are not changing, they have never differed from the actual situation. Take a short look at the gallery, the latest fifty pics. You will find 16 animals there, roughly one third of the total "population", one Akt an one photo from the Street section (though in my opinion it's not even a real Street).
The idea of unfairly treated nature and animal pics is nothing but a popular misconception. In fact the massive over-representation of this genre in the gallery explanis, to some extent, the aversion, several people hold to it.
Neil Burton 30/01/2009 16:32
@Peter; Perhaps time are changing on the FC then? I doubt it, purely a seasonal bout of people sitting at home looking through their old archives because they cannot get out. Time will tell, but for now, this place sucks.† Peter Gugerell 30/01/2009 16:21
@Neil: Pure nonsense. Apparently you've never looked into the gallery. The majority of the recent pictures comes from the nature channel. There is no "Akt" and nearly no street photography. I don't know what you are talking about.Senza Nome 30/01/2009 12:20
...:o)Neil Burton 30/01/2009 12:08
@Mario Vogt : It would seem to me that one needs a certain sense of humour when joining the FC. Having only just re-joined, I waited a few months because this place stinks of jealousy and cliques, I wish I had saved the 48€ and bought myself a cheap compact camera to take blurred, unfocussed 'Street photography' shots.It would seem that if you do not take pictures with a small camera, spontaniously, aimlessly, pointlessly and badly...then you cannot call it a photo, or art...
Apparently sitting patiently for a single animal or bird to come your way has no place in the FC, perhaps there is no skill, no challenge, no point?
And what of the Akt clique? Some take wonderful pictures, good lighting, good ideas, well chosen models. Those guys I salute!
On the whole though it is just pictures of saggy wives in badly chosen fishnets taken with a flash, really challenging. But lets give it a star anyway, cos there is a naked chick!
Forgive me but the FC is over run with people who vote not for the photo, but for the fact they don't like the subject...perhaps it is time to split the voting process up, Natur togs vote in the Natur section....Akt togs vote in the saggy womens section. ;)
Is it possible to cancel a subscription? I feel cheated out of 48€, this is not a Foto community, it is a Foto Clique.
Hans-Peter aus München 30/01/2009 0:20
und ich finde es ganz toll wo Sabine schon überall war :-)Hans-Peter aus München 30/01/2009 0:12
I like it +++ewaldmario 29/01/2009 22:48
squirrel of the year ...Adam D. 29/01/2009 22:48
Sehenswert in beste Qualität !LG Adam
Günter Frank 29/01/2009 22:25
habe mich weiter oben schon mal getraut, das Bild zu loben. Aber es ist in dieser unsäglichen Diskussion viel, vermutlich zu viel gesagt worden. Ich will noch einen Aspekt anfügen: Was macht denn ein solches Tierfoto gut oder galeriefähig? Soll natürlich gut getroffen sein, scharf ohnehin und, und ,und... Aber für mich ist vielleicht gerade das Eichhörnchen ein zwiespältiges Objekt, denn bei uns in der Gegend sind die äußerst rar und dazu noch immens scheu - anderen Ortes gehn die durchs offene Fenster an die Kochtöpfe!!! Klar, dass bei solch zahmen Tieren der "Seltenheitswert" sinkt - für mich waren die Fotos, die ich oben veröffentlicht habe, absolute Glückstreffer, weil eben eine Katze ein Eichhörnchen auf einen Baum flüchten ließ und dieser Baum gerade zufällig neben unserem Balkon in noch gerade erreichbarer Entfernung war zum fotografieren. So ist auch dies wie vieles im Leben RELATIV!!!TOOT 29/01/2009 21:01
sweet squirrel ;)lg lydia
emmo 29/01/2009 18:34
toll erwischt. Sehr schön.lg emmo
ein fake 29/01/2009 18:11
nöö - werd schon ausreichend gelobt und bewundert ...;-)
Sabine Rogner 29/01/2009 18:02
"ein fake, gestern um 21:35 Uhrwie schön, sabine war schon in:
> Alte Pinakothek München, National Gallery London,
> National Portrait Gallery London, Österreichische
> Galerie Wien, Deutsches Museum München,
> Gemäldegalerie Berlin, Kulturmodell Passau, usw.usw.
und jetzt? möchtest du gelobt werden? bewundert?
du hast in der lustigen aufzählung jetzt nur die fc-gallery vergessen ..."
Junge Du hast ein Rad ab!
Erst wird folgendes gepostet:
"superkreativerprofifotodesignkünstler, gestern um 10:48 Uhr
"....zu lesen, wie oft in den Kommentaren unterm Bild das Wort "verdient" auftaucht, wenn es um die Galerie geht.
vor allem schreiben das immer diejenigen, die in ihrem ganzen leben noch nie eine reale galerie in der realen welt, von innen gesehen haben."
und wenn man dem etwas dagegen zu setzen hat kommt ein faky und schwafelt dummlall.
Hey und jetzt? möchtest du gelobt werden? bewundert?